{"id":1357,"date":"2012-02-19T19:45:00","date_gmt":"2012-02-19T18:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/?p=1357"},"modified":"2012-02-19T19:45:00","modified_gmt":"2012-02-19T18:45:00","slug":"energy-is-not-frame-independent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/2012\/02\/19\/energy-is-not-frame-independent\/","title":{"rendered":"Energy is not frame independent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For a closed system we have energy conservation and this is deeply tied into the notion of the physics being unaltered under shifts in time. A salient point here is that we have fixed a frame in which to measure the energy. It is not true that the energy is the same measured in any inertial frame, what is true is that it is conserved.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A simple example<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Let us consider a free particle of mass \\(m\\) in one dimension. Let us pick some coordinates \\((x,t)\\). With respect to this frame we have that the kinetic energy<\/p>\n<p>\\(E = \\frac{1}{2 m}p^{2}\\),<\/p>\n<p>where the momentum \\(p \\) is given by \\(m v = m \\dot{x} \\). The dot is the derivative with respect to time. (I am using the usuall abuses of notaion here, this should not confuse)<\/p>\n<p>Now let us consider a Galilean transformation<\/p>\n<p>\\(x&#8217; = x {-} ut\\)<br \/>\n\\(t&#8217; =t\\).<\/p>\n<p>Then we calculate how the momentum transforms<\/p>\n<p>\\(p = m \\frac{d}{dt}\\left( x&#8217; &#8211; ut \\right) = m \\left( v&#8217; +u \\right)= p&#8217; + mu\\).<\/p>\n<p>Or \\(p&#8217; = p &#8211; mu\\).<\/p>\n<p>This is exactly what you would expect. So on to the energy&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>\\(E = \\frac{1}{2m}p^{2} = \\frac{1}{2} \\left(p&#8217; + mu \\right)^{2}\\)<br \/>\n\\(= E&#8217; + \\frac{1}{2}mu^{2} + up&#8217; = E&#8217; &#8211; \\frac{1}{2}mu^{2}+ up\\)<\/p>\n<p>so<\/p>\n<p>\\(E&#8217; = E + \\frac{1}{2}mu^{2} -up\\).<\/p>\n<p>Clearly \\(E&#8217; \\neq E\\)<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recap<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Energy conservation should not be confused with energy being observer independent, it clearly is not.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For a closed system we have energy conservation and this is deeply tied into the notion of the physics being unaltered under shifts in time. A salient point here is that we have fixed a frame in which to measure the energy. It is not true that the energy is the same measured in any &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/2012\/02\/19\/energy-is-not-frame-independent\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Energy is not frame independent<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1357","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-physics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1357","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1357"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1357\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1357"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1357"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/ajb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1357"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}