Comments on: It’s Time to Get Serious About Taxonomy http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/ A blogs.scienceforums.net weblog on evolution, man and monkey, with miscellany. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:30:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Paralith http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/#comment-54 Paralith Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:36:10 +0000 http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/#comment-54 Actually, one of the professors I worked with during my undergrad years, Liliana Cortes-Ortiz, did some taxonomic work on New World monkeys using genetic data. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12470939?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum Granted, this is for one genus, but she was also working on a chapter for a book on NW monkey classification, and I actually helped her search for some additional genetic data in the NCBI genbank so she could do her own analysis. So the problem is definitely being worked on, worry not! Actually, one of the professors I worked with during my undergrad years, Liliana Cortes-Ortiz, did some taxonomic work on New World monkeys using genetic data.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12470939?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Granted, this is for one genus, but she was also working on a chapter for a book on NW monkey classification, and I actually helped her search for some additional genetic data in the NCBI genbank so she could do her own analysis. So the problem is definitely being worked on, worry not!

]]> By: foodchain http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/#comment-30 foodchain Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:28:56 +0000 http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/#comment-30 You have many forms of taxonomy and it does not surprise me to have conflictions. Trying to elucidate species which have a lineage in regards to evolution provides so many issues. If you cant get an exact picture of the when and or how from either straight genetics or some other aspect of physiology you have to go to indirect means like bioinformatics stuff. Mathematical taxonomy does not sit any better in regards to accurately portraying evolution either, as again no real branch of taxonomy in regards to biology does currently. I think one simple reason of this is evolution never stops, species do speciate from other species and evolution does not have to produce some perfect error free entity perfectly suited for neat taxonomic labeling. Not to mention epigenetic effects and sexual reproduction barriers. I mean what if you have a large change of general phenotypes within a population that true speciation has not occurred in yet? Evolution implies history and in that you cant ignore such. You have many forms of taxonomy and it does not surprise me to have conflictions. Trying to elucidate species which have a lineage in regards to evolution provides so many issues. If you cant get an exact picture of the when and or how from either straight genetics or some other aspect of physiology you have to go to indirect means like bioinformatics stuff. Mathematical taxonomy does not sit any better in regards to accurately portraying evolution either, as again no real branch of taxonomy in regards to biology does currently. I think one simple reason of this is evolution never stops, species do speciate from other species and evolution does not have to produce some perfect error free entity perfectly suited for neat taxonomic labeling. Not to mention epigenetic effects and sexual reproduction barriers. I mean what if you have a large change of general phenotypes within a population that true speciation has not occurred in yet? Evolution implies history and in that you cant ignore such.

]]> By: ecoli http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/#comment-29 ecoli Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:24:13 +0000 http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/2008/02/27/its-time-to-get-serious-about-taxonomy/#comment-29 You'd think that in the 21st century, we'd be able to get taxonomy problems mostly ironed out, what with the plethora of genetic information out there. I think we're still mostly stuck in the 1800s because different groups of scientists decided to come up with their own names for the same species (call it narcissism). You’d think that in the 21st century, we’d be able to get taxonomy problems mostly ironed out, what with the plethora of genetic information out there. I think we’re still mostly stuck in the 1800s because different groups of scientists decided to come up with their own names for the same species (call it narcissism).

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