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		<title>Chris Beard Fires Back on Ida</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently the backlash against the media storm that came in with Ida has begun. Chris Beard wrote in the New Scientist this week utterly dismissing Ida as anything but an adapoid. With a diagram. Where Beard sees Darwinius http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17173-why-ida-fossil-is-not-the-missing-link.html The main thrust: What does Ida&#8217;s anatomy tell us about her place on the family tree [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the backlash against the media storm that came in with Ida has begun. Chris Beard wrote in the <em>New Scientist</em> this week utterly dismissing Ida as anything but an adapoid. With a diagram.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-118" src="http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/files/2009/06/dn17173-1_500.jpg" alt="dn17173-1_500" width="500" height="375" /></p>
<p><em>Where Beard sees </em>Darwinius</p>
<p>http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17173-why-ida-fossil-is-not-the-missing-link.html</p>
<p>The main thrust:</p>
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<p class="infuse">What does Ida&#8217;s anatomy tell us about her place on the family tree of humans and other primates? The fact that she retains primitive features that commonly occurred among all early primates, such as simple incisors rather than a full-fledged toothcomb, indicates that Ida belongs somewhere closer to the base of the tree than living lemurs do.</p>
<p class="infuse">But this does not necessarily make Ida a close relative of anthropoids – the group of primates that includes monkeys, apes – and humans. In order to establish that connection, Ida would have to have anthropoid-like features that evolved after anthropoids split away from lemurs and other early primates. Here, alas, Ida fails miserably.</p>
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<p>There&#8217;s still a deeper issue here that has yet to be fully addressed by the media. <em> New Scientist</em>&#8216;s editorial wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>[T]here was little chance to seek disinterested comment on the researchers&#8217; claim. By the time doubts about Ida&#8217;s role in our past emerged, the circus had moved on.</p></blockquote>
<p>A good point, except that it&#8217;s hard to find a disinterested opinion in this field. Eocene primate paleontology is deeply political. There are just a handful of researchersand almost every one one of them has a well-staked out position in one of a few camps on every issue that no single fossil, even a beautiful on like Ida, is likely to change. Chris Beard thinks anthropoids are ancient and from Asia, with his <em>Eosimias</em> on the lineage. Phillip Gingrich thinks anthropoids descended from cercomoniine adapoids. Szlazy thinks they came from omomyoids; Matt Cartmill thinks they came from tarsiers. Ewlyn Simons and Tab Rasmussen will tend to take whatever position boosts the importance of the Fayum. Everyone is going to respond to Ida on those terms. So, what we&#8217;re likely to see in media is as much people scrambling to restate their old positions as new, truly skeptical analyses of <em>Darwinius</em>.</p>
<p>Oh, and, I think this blog scooped <em>New Scientist</em> on the first skeptical reaction to Ida. Yep, that&#8217;s right. I expect status as a science media juggarnought to be forthcoming.</p>
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		<title>Weird mistake in D. masillae paper?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed this reading through the paper for my last post. I&#8217;ll quote how the authors describe Table 3: Table 3 lists 30 anatomical and morphological characteristics commonly used to distinguish extant strepsirrhine and haplorhine primates. They were taken from the standard primate textbook by Fleagle [74], form the classic W. C. Osman Hill monographs [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed this reading through the paper for my last post. I&#8217;ll quote how the authors describe Table 3:</p>
<blockquote><p>Table 3 lists 30 anatomical and morphological characteristics commonly used to distinguish extant strepsirrhine and haplorhine primates. They were taken from the standard primate textbook by Fleagle [74], form the classic W. C. Osman Hill monographs of Strepsirrhine and Haplorhini [75, 76], and from additional references listed in Table 3.</p></blockquote>
<p>p. 24.</p>
<p>Reference 74 is listed thus:</p>
<p>Fleagle, JG (1999)<em> </em>Primate Adaptation and Evolution, second edition. San Diego: Academic Press. 528 p.</p>
<p>That book is neither 528 pages in length nor does page 528 seem relevant at all to the paper. It is a part of a discussion on on the origins of bipedalism in the chapter on hominids. There&#8217;s no mention of haplorhines, strepsirhines, anthropoids, or even particularly any specific features. I can&#8217;t think what other meaning &#8220;528 p&#8221; could have. I noticed because I was actually curious what part of Fleagle the authors of the <em>D. masillae</em> paper were referring to. I can&#8217;t recall any similar listing of features, so they must have collated from a broad swath of the text. I don&#8217;t have copies of the other references, so can&#8217;t speak to them.</p>
<p>I could well be misunderstanding something in the citation. If not, weird. I don&#8217;t know what that says about <em>PLoS ONE</em>. Maybe these things are common.</p>
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		<title>Darwinius as a &#8220;Missing Link&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 01:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve finally gotten around to reading the PLoS ONE paper describing Darwnius masillae, the newly descrived adapoid from Messel, Germany, represented by a remarkably (95%)  complete skeleton of an immature (approximately 1 y/o) female. The media blitz that accompanied the announcement of the fossil on May 20th put heavy emphasis on the notion that this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve finally gotten around to reading the PLoS ONE paper describing <em>Darwnius masillae</em>, the newly descrived adapoid from Messel, Germany, represented by a remarkably (95%)  complete skeleton of an immature (approximately 1 y/o) female. The media blitz that accompanied the announcement of the fossil on May 20th put heavy emphasis on the notion that this fossil was a &#8220;missing link,&#8221; often put as being between &#8220;us and lemurs.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure the documentary soon to be aired and the book by Colin Tudge (which I have bought a copy of but haven&#8217;t yet read) will as well.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-98" src="http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/files/2009/05/426px-darwiniusfig-s62cropped.jpg" alt="426px-darwiniusfig-s62cropped" width="426" height="599" /></p>
<p><em>See any resemblance?</em></p>
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<p>&#8220;Missing link&#8221; is a typical expression in any news report of a discovery of a (supposed) human ancestor, of course. And I will point out that the authors of the description don&#8217;t put their case as dramatically as the media does. Their basic thrust is to suggest that the constellation of features in <em>D. masillae</em> warrant a realignment of the Adapoidae (or at least the Cercomoniinae) with the group that includes living tarsiers and humans, that Haplorhini, instead of the group that contains modern lemurs, lorises, and galagos, the Strepsirhini. That&#8217;s not exactly a &#8216;missing link.&#8217; More like a &#8216;missing cousin.&#8217; However, they do suggest that  <em>D.</em> <em>masillae</em> should force paleontologists to recognize  that &#8220;the adapoid primates it represents deserve more careful comparison with higher primates than they have received in the past&#8221; and make allusion to the possibility that they &#8220;could represent a stem group from which later anthropoid primates evolved.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I mentioned before, Phillip Gingerich was on the team that described <em>D. masillae</em>, and in addition to being a fine mammalian paleontologist, he also believes on the basis of prior fossil evidence that anthropoids descended from certain adapoid primates of this subfamily Cercomoniinae. This fossil absolutley does not enter into a vacuum, either on the part of the theoretical orientations of its discoverers or the state of the debate on Eocene primates. Gingerich has been a partisan for a number of years in a rather intractable war. <em>D. masillae </em>is a cercomoniine adapoid that the describers claim to have found features on it that point toward anthropoids. This would be a clincher for Gingerich; an astonishingly complete fossil cercomoniine that is transitional to modern anthropoids. The &#8216;missing link&#8217; with our prosimian past.</p>
<p>This combination, media frenzy, prior convictions, lent me to skepticism. I don&#8217;t feel unalterably assuaged.</p>
<p>First, let&#8217;s look at the features already cited by Gingerich and others in cercomoniine adapoids to support the theory that they are ancestral to anthropoids. The genus <em>Mahgarita</em> was a previous favorite for it&#8217;s &#8220;deep snout, fused mandibular symphesis, and enlarged canal for the promontary artery&#8221; (Fleagle, 1999). These are indeed all typical anthropoid traits: a high face (deep snout, in this context, as the length of the face still hasn&#8217;t been substantially reduced), a single bone in the lower jaw as opposed to the primitive two, and blood supply to the brain provided by the promontory as opposed to the stapedial artery (although this condition also exists in prosimian lorises). To make the point I intend to make here, I don&#8217;t particularly need to dispute the likelihood of any of these features forming synapomorphies (unique derived traits) with anthropoids. But, needless to say, the paleontologists who reject the adapoid theory for anthropoid origins are able to explain them away as convergences sufficiently so that no consensus has formed. As it stands, we have a stale mate.</p>
<p>For <em>D. masillae</em> to deserve the media hype (beyond being a beautiful primate fossil) and the confident moniker &#8220;missing link&#8221; it would need to provide some new evidence, by virtue of its completeness, of synapomorphies with anthropoids. So does it? The technical description is littered with non-committal little allusions to similarities with anthropoids, but I will limit myself to the features the authors&#8217; put forth as definitive synapomorphies. I provide the relevant segment of Table 3 from the describing paper, detailing the binary (yes, no) presence of a list of traits present in Old World monkeys, apes, and humans and mostly present in New World Monkeys (i.e., anthropoid traits) in some living prosimians (note that tarsiers are commonly grouped with anthropoids as haplorhines), an assessment as to their status as primitive or derived, and their status in <em>D. masillae</em>. Say all that five times fast.</p>
<p>Anyway, the table:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-97" src="http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/files/2009/05/table-3-300x255.jpg" alt="table-3" width="572" height="485" /></p>
<p>Now, again, I don&#8217;t particularly hold myself competent to judge the quality of the synapomorphies identified by the describing team to link <em>D. masillae </em>to anthropoids. The criteria I&#8217;m holding &#8220;Ida&#8221; up to in determine whether-or-not the public and scientists should be hailing her as a &#8220;missing link&#8221; is, &#8220;Does she tell us anything new?&#8221; There is no indication of post-orbital closer  or a narrowing of the space of bone between the eyes, features that anthropoids share with other potential prosimian ancestor groups and that have traditionally tripped up the adapoid theory. In honesty, save one, all the other features listed have been described in other cercomoniines and used to link them with anthropoids. albeit perhaps not all in the same individual.</p>
<p>The deep mandibular ramus, fused symphesis, and vertically implanted incisors are all reflections of a relatively sturdy, deep lower jaw and have been pointed out many times before (they form perhaps the core of the usual Gingerich case). All are present, for example, in <em>Mahgarita</em>. The short rostrum is somewhat less usual because it is a cranial feature, and there are few cercomoniine crania, but it is linked with the usual suggestion of a shorter, higher face in both adapoids and anthropoids. The post-cranial features are likely to get the most attention (flipping through the Tudge book I can see a number of illustrations detailing the hands and feet of &#8216;Ida&#8217;), and deserve it. However, the absence of a grooming claw has already been demonstrated in a cercomoniine, <em>Europolemur koenigswaldi</em>, though it seems to be present in <em>Europolemur kelleri</em> (of the same genus, no less).  The fibular morphology has also already been commented on as seperating the cercomoniines from lemurs as well as the other family of European adapoids, the Adapidae, and alligning them with haplorhines. The authors don&#8217;t make a bad case over all, I suppose, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to me to be a particularly new one.</p>
<p>So, while the fossil is certainly extraordinary in what it has to tell us about Eocene primates and how they lived (all the parts of the paper I didn&#8217;t talk about), I don&#8217;t see as the discovers&#8217; made a sufficiently original case using her unusually complete anatomy to, put frankly, change much in the way we look at anthropoid origins or the Haplorhini. Maybe the authors&#8217; have a good point, and the Adapoidae should be included with tarsiers and anthropoids. But, the case they make in this paper doesn&#8217;t seem to use any evidence that wasn&#8217;t already available from other fossils.  Before I sound too harsh, let me conclude by saying that the general proposition that this fossil is remarkably complete <em>ergo </em>has unusual potential for informing our understanding of the systematics of Eocene primates is quite possibly sound. But this provisional description (though thorough) doesn&#8217;t quite make that case. The mere fact that the fossil they&#8217;re working off of is really complete doesn&#8217;t make their argument from the same characters as were already known any more especially sound. This only becomes an indictment of the scientists if they fail to follow up with more comprehensive (espcially cladistic) analyses. For now, all we can say is, surprise, surprise, the media jumped the gun.</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>Beard, KC (2004) The hunt for the dawn monkey: unearthing the origins of monkeys, apes, and humans. Berkeley: University of California Press.</p>
<p><span class="authors">Fleagle JG</span> (1999) Primate adaptation and evolution, second edition. San Diego: Academic Press.</p>
<p class="intro"><span class="citation_date">Franzen JL, Gingerich PD, Habersetzer J, Hurum J, von Koenigswald W, Smith, BH (2009)</span> &#8220;<span class="citation_article_title">Complete primate skeleton from the middle Eocene of Messel in Germany: morphology and paleobiology.&#8221; </span> <span class="citation_journal_title">PLoS ONE</span><span class="citation_issue"> 4(5):</span> <span class="citation_start_page">e5723.</span> <span class="citation_doi">doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0005723</span></p>
<p class="intro"><span class="citation_doi">Tudge, Colin (2009) The link: uncovering our earliest ancestor. New York: Little, Brown, and Co.<br />
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		<title>Huge Little Adapoid</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In storm of media hype, including a special tribute from Google, a new little adapiform fossil has surfaced from Messel, Germany, formerly of Archeopteryx fame. Her name is  Darwinius masillae,  or &#8216;Ida,&#8217; apparently. And she is beautiful: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html Apparently this thing had been lingering in private collections for 23 years until it was discovered by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In storm of media hype, including a special tribute from Google, a new little adapiform fossil has surfaced from Messel, Germany, formerly of <em>Archeopteryx</em> fame. Her name is  <em>Darwinius masillae</em>,  or &#8216;Ida,&#8217; apparently. And she is beautiful:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-84" src="http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/files/2009/05/090519missinglinkfoundbk.jpg" alt="090519missinglinkfoundbk" width="461" height="408" /></p>
<p><a title="National Geographic Story on 'Ida'" href="http://">http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html</a></p>
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<p>Apparently this thing had been lingering in private collections for 23 years until it was discovered by Jorn Hurum at a sale in 2006. The skeleton is 47 million years old, making it early Eocene. And, again, it&#8217;s beautiful. The most intriguing early Eocene fossils we had before now looked more like <em>Altiatlasius</em> and <em>Eosimias</em>: handfuls of teeth and a few jaws.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-85" src="http://blogs.scienceforums.net/evoanthro/files/2009/05/eosimias.jpg" alt="eosimias" width="237" height="194" /></p>
<p>Eosimias<em>, no more media coverage for you.</em></p>
<p>The &#8216;missing link&#8217; mania, though, is a bit hasty. The team that was called in the describe this fossil included, surprise-surpise, Phillip Gingrich. The team identified it as a notharctid adapiform. Gingrich is the author of theory of anthropoid origins which holds the notharctids to be the ancestors of anthropoids. Previously, Gingrich had built his theory pointing out adapiform-like features in Oligocene anthropoids from the Fayum (abetted by that site&#8217;s major paleontologist, Ewlyn Simons). Now, however, he has an incredibly well preserved notharctid and, low and behold, it seems to have &#8220;anthropoid features.&#8221; According to Gingrich, this is the fossil that proves his entire theory; it is an early adapiform that has features suggesting ancestry to anthropoids. Skepticism is warrented. Some of the response to the paper in PLoS ONE have already questioned the durability of that association. So, it&#8217;s wait and see on the &#8216;missing link&#8217; angle. Still, beautiful and remarkably important fossil that primate paleontologists are going to be talking about for a number of years. I look forward to learning more.</p>
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		<title>Doing it in Your Sleep</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve found myself doing a fair amount of reading in the history of paleontology recently, and I&#8217;ve come across two interesting cases of paleontologists dreaming up reconstructions of their fossils. The first involves the famous Swiss-American naturalist Louis Agassiz. While he was still in Europe working on his monumental Researches sur les poissons fossiles, he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found myself doing a fair amount of reading in the history of paleontology recently, and I&#8217;ve come across two interesting cases of paleontologists dreaming up reconstructions of their fossils. The first involves the famous Swiss-American naturalist Louis Agassiz. While he was still in Europe working on his monumental <em>Researches sur les poissons fossiles</em>, he came across a particular fossil fish that was so encased in rock he was unable to bring it to any recognizable form. Well,</p>
<blockquote><p>For two nights in dreams he saw the fish, fully restored, but could not recapture its form the next day. On the third evening, he went to bed with paper and pencil near him, and, when the image returned again, half-awake he sketched it. Returning to the museum the next day, he soon managed to separate the fossil from the stone, discovering as he did so that here was the original, exactly as he had sketched it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lurie, Edward. <em>Louis Agassiz: A Life in Science</em>, 1960. p. 58.</p>
<p>The other story is about an American Agassiz protege, Edward Drinker Cope, while he was working in the Montana badlands in 1876. He and his men were working a strip of Cretaceous fossiliferous deposits on a perilously high cliff above the Missouri River, with threat of the Sioux impending. Apparently the stress was getting to old Cope:</p>
<blockquote><p>In his dreams, the ancient beasts he was exhuming would come to life and torment him. &#8216;Every animal of which we found traces during the day played with him at night, tossing him into the air, kicking him, trampling upon him,&#8217; Sternberg [his associate on the expedition] wrote.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jaffe, Mark. <em>The Gilded Dinosaur: The Fossil War Between E.D. Cope and O.C. Marsh and the Rise of American Science</em>, 2000. p. 179. What make&#8217;s Cope&#8217;s imagination the more remarkable was the fact that he was mostly only finding teeth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to find more stories like these.</p>
<p>More on Louis Agassiz and probably a review of <em>The Gilded Dinosaur</em> later.</p>
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