{"id":343,"date":"2022-08-15T15:50:14","date_gmt":"2022-08-15T15:50:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/?p=343"},"modified":"2022-08-15T15:50:14","modified_gmt":"2022-08-15T15:50:14","slug":"radius-of-a-black-hole-for-relativity-and-newtonian-mechanics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/2022\/08\/15\/radius-of-a-black-hole-for-relativity-and-newtonian-mechanics\/","title":{"rendered":"Radius of a black hole for relativity and Newtonian mechanics"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">For Newtonian mechanics<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>The Schwarzschild radius is the radius of\nthe event horizon of a black hole. Amazingly, we can compute it with Newtonian mechanics,\nwhich is explained below. Consider a big mass M which creates the gravitational\nacceleration a for a small mass m at the distance r\nfrom M, see figure 1 and equation (1) for\ngravitational acceleration a=GM\/r2. For computing v the radial velocity of m in\nthe gravitational field of M we integrate equation (1). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We compute for the case where m freefalls from\ninfinitely far starting with zero velocity, see (7). With these conditions the radial velocity of\nm at the distance <a>r<sub>2<\/sub> f<\/a>rom M is computed in (8), v2 = 2GM\/r2. Reversing (8), r<sub>2<\/sub> = 2GM\/v2. The Schwarzschild radius of\nthe event horizon of M is r<sub>s<\/sub> such that the Schwarzschild factor equals\ninfinity, see (10).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When v<sub>2<\/sub> equals the speed of light c, we apply v<sub>2<\/sub>\n= c into (9) and we obtain (11) where r<sub>2<\/sub> = r<sub>s<\/sub>. So, r<sub>2<\/sub>\nequals r<sub>s<\/sub> and the Schwarzschild radius is computed with Newtonian\nmechanics. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">For relativity<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Although\nthe Schwarzschild radius r<sub>s<\/sub> is a relativistic quantity, in the above\nit is derived completely with Newtonian mechanics, which is somewhat weird.\nWhat will be its value if we apply relativistic principle?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the\nfollowing derivation we will use the formula for relativistic transformation of\nacceleration which is derived in the paper \u00ab&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44582027\/Relativistic_kinematics\">Relativistic<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/pengkuanonphysics.blogspot.com\/2020\/11\/relativistic-kinematics.html\">kinematics<\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb linked here: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44582027\/Relativistic_kinematics\">https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44582027\/Relativistic_kinematics<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The\nformula is the equation (18) of the paper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here,\nthis formula is given by (12) in which the gravitational acceleration of m is a and\nthe acceleration in space is a<sub>r<\/sub> and the radial velocity is computed by\nintegration. With the same conditions as (7), the constant of integration k equals 0, see (16). Then, using k = 0 in (15), v is expressed with r in (17).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the case where\nthe small mass m approaches M, the distance r approaches 0, the radial velocity\nof m approaches the speed of light c, see (18). So,\nv the radial velocity of m does not become bigger than the speed of light c for\nr &gt; 0. The Schwarzschild radius r<sub>s<\/sub> is the radius such that v = c.\nSo, r<sub>s<\/sub> = r = 0, see (19).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion <\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>When the\nrelativistic principles are applied correctly, the Schwarzschild radius r<sub>s<\/sub>\nequals zero. The gravitational force on m approaches infinity near M. But the\nspeed of m never reaches the speed of light c, which is true for any force\nhowever strong it is and for time of acceleration however long it is. The\nSchwarzschild radius r<sub>s<\/sub> must obey relativistic principle and is\nshown to be zero.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That the Schwarzschild radius r<sub>s<\/sub> equals\nzero means that the geometrical size of a black hole should be zero and thus, a\nblack hole should not have an interior. I have reached this conclusion and\nexplained it in the paper \u00ab&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/45434676\/Gravitational_time_dilation_and_black_hole\">Gravitational time dilation<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/pengkuanonphysics.blogspot.com\/2021\/03\/gravitational-time-dilation-and-black.html\">black hole<\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb in which I have\nalso shown that point masses could not\ncoalesce to form a black hole whose volume is zero and that observations\nsupport this conclusion. This paper is linked here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/45434676\/Gravitational_time_dilation_and_black_hole\">https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/45434676\/Gravitational_time_dilation_and_black_hole<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The equations and figure are in the paper below<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/84798805\/Radius_of_a_black_hole_for_relativity_and_Newtonian_mechanics\">https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/84798805\/Radius_of_a_black_hole_for_relativity_and_Newtonian_mechanics<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For more detailed information, I invite you to read\nthe two cited papers:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/45434676\/Gravitational_time_dilation_and_black_hole\">Gravitational time dilation<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/pengkuanonphysics.blogspot.com\/2021\/03\/gravitational-time-dilation-and-black.html\">black hole<\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/45434676\/Gravitational_time_dilation_and_black_hole\">https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/45434676\/Gravitational_time_dilation_and_black_hole<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44582027\/Relativistic_kinematics\">Relativistic<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/pengkuanonphysics.blogspot.com\/2020\/11\/relativistic-kinematics.html\">kinematics<\/a>&nbsp;\u00bb <a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44582027\/Relativistic_kinematics\">https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44582027\/Relativistic_kinematics<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For Newtonian mechanics The Schwarzschild radius is the radius of the event horizon of a black hole. Amazingly, we can compute it with Newtonian mechanics, which is explained below. Consider a big mass M which creates the gravitational acceleration a &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/2022\/08\/15\/radius-of-a-black-hole-for-relativity-and-newtonian-mechanics\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-343","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/343","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=343"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/343\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":344,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/343\/revisions\/344"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=343"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=343"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/pengkuan\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=343"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}