{"id":10346,"date":"2011-11-21T03:00:33","date_gmt":"2011-11-21T08:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=10346"},"modified":"2011-11-21T03:00:33","modified_gmt":"2011-11-21T08:00:33","slug":"and-physics-he-might-have-disliked","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/10346","title":{"rendered":"And Physics He Might Have Disliked"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.scientificamerican.com\/article.cfm?id=microwaves-and-the-speed\">Microwave Math That Einstein Would Have Loved<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Measuring the speed of light with a microwave is a pretty standard DIY experiment, though I prefer using chocolate chips, given the premise that one should eat the experiment if it&#8217;s about food.  (Then again, the article suggests Velveeta.  Put that on your spam and wonderbread sandwich and it&#8217;s still food-free).  Sure, Einstein might have liked that.<\/p>\n<p>My nit is with this<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To get the most out of your microwave, it helps to understand that it cooks with light waves, much like a grill does, except that the light waves are almost five inches (12.2 centimeters) from peak to peak\u2014a good bit longer in wavelength than the infrared rays that coals put out.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A grill is not really that much like a microwave.  A microwave uses (non-thermal) radiation to cook food.  A grill uses convection, conduction <em>and<\/em> radiation.  If it just used radiation, you could put a transparent* vacuum system in between the food and the coals and still cook the food, but that wouldn&#8217;t give you the expected result.  The air is hot, as is the grill itself \u2014 you get a pattern burned into your hamburger patty or hot dog from where it lies on the hot grill.  Conduction and convection.   All three modes of heat transfer play a role.<\/p>\n<p>What is said about the wavelength isn&#8217;t wrong, but it does tend to reinforce the mistaken conception that infrared radiation is synonymous with heat.  The blackbody radiation that would be emitted wouldn&#8217;t have a specific wavelength, since it would be a continuum, and  it would include wavelengths longer and possibly shorter than IR, if the source were hot enough.  The microwaves, of course, are not heat in a physic sense \u2014 in thermodynamic terms that would be considered work, since they do not come from a thermal source; it&#8217;s not coming from a temperature difference.  An infrared laser could be used to cook, but that wouldn&#8217;t be heat either.<\/p>\n<p>I really have no idea if Albert would have liked or disliked such an example, but I suspect glossing over details that give the wrong implication might have bothered him.<\/p>\n<p>*Certainly not one <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/9837\">made of pyrex<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Microwave Math That Einstein Would Have Loved Measuring the speed of light with a microwave is a pretty standard DIY experiment, though I prefer using chocolate chips, given the premise that one should eat the experiment if it&#8217;s about food. &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/10346\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18,39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10346","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-food","category-physics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10346","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10346"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10346\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10346"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10346"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10346"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}