{"id":11538,"date":"2012-04-24T03:00:05","date_gmt":"2012-04-24T08:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=11538"},"modified":"2012-04-24T03:00:05","modified_gmt":"2012-04-24T08:00:05","slug":"its-later-than-you-think","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/11538","title":{"rendered":"It's Later Than You Think"},"content":{"rendered":"

Gender Issues Start Sooner Than You Think<\/a><\/p>\n

It’s a good post, linking to another good post. Go read it\/them.<\/p>\n

The more of this stuff I see, though, the more I think that many women-in-STEM initiatives in higher ed are aiming at the wrong target. If you want to really<\/em> change things, you need to start earlier. About eighteen years earlier, probably more (since the minds you really need to change are the parents’).<\/p>\n

(Of course, to be fair to those initiatives, they’re working on changing what they can. College faculty have a fairly minimal ability to affect the conditions even at their own children’s schools and day care centers, but they have a good deal more flexibility to affect their own classes and departments. And even too little, too late is better than nothing at all.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

From my own perspective, I used to observe and even weigh in on some of the STEM gender discussions, only to have the attitude that “it’s university-level discrimination, and only<\/em> university-level discrimination, dammit” prevail, and anyone not toeing the line getting lambasted, regardless of the validity of their argument. This happened too many times, in a setting of a bunch of scientists, which I found to be dismaying. Thus I usually duck or run the other way when the subject comes up these days. I have no use for conversation where volume is substituted for facts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Gender Issues Start Sooner Than You Think It’s a good post, linking to another good post. Go read it\/them. The more of this stuff I see, though, the more I think that many women-in-STEM initiatives in higher ed are aiming … Continue reading →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[46],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11538","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-science-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11538","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11538"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11538\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11538"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11538"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11538"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}