{"id":129,"date":"2008-03-22T09:14:33","date_gmt":"2008-03-22T14:14:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/129"},"modified":"2008-03-22T09:14:33","modified_gmt":"2008-03-22T14:14:33","slug":"banks-arent-the-only-bankrupt-things","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/129","title":{"rendered":"Bear Stearns isn&#039;t the Only Bankrupt Thing These Days"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>OK, already, I&#8217;ll become the millionth blogger to note the delicious irony of PZ Myers being, well, <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/pharyngula\/2008\/03\/expelled.php\">expelled<\/a> from a screening of the upcoming movie, &#8220;EXPELLED!&#8221;  Ironic not only because of being expelled, but also because, if those that are advancing evolutionary science and tearing down creationism\/ID are beetles (as something with which a student of Darwin might identify), they chose the lesser of two weevils \u2014 Richard Dawkins was allowed in.<\/p>\n<p>You can&#8217;t make this shit up.<\/p>\n<p>Writing about the politics and antiscience of creation\u2014evolution is easy points.  There are things going on all the time, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pandasthumb.org\/archives\/2005\/11\/missing_link_cd.html\">cdesign proponentsists<\/a> are just so intellectually and morally bankrupt that fodder for blogging is plentiful, and there really isn&#8217;t a shortage of smart people to shoot down all the crap that gets written.  (Not that the ID folks have a monopoly on such behavior \u2014 it pains me when a science advocate makes arguments in the same vein, when there is such a wealth of evidence to present \u2014 but lies, whether repeated knowingly or parroted blindly, are just so widespread in the creationism\/ID movement)<\/p>\n<p>The thing is, the arguments are by and large the same as they have been for a long time.  Way back in the USENET days, I was active on the talk.origins newsgroup (active enough that I was nicknamed &#8220;Chris&#8221; and hold a faculty position at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ediacara.org\/fac03.html\">University of Ediacara<\/a>) and I see things bandied around today in discussions, and it&#8217;s the same crap.  The same hollow, fallacious arguments, the same lies that keep propagating despite having been debunked long ago.  It just makes me tired all over.  Facts don&#8217;t matter and won&#8217;t sway someone not interested in science.<\/p>\n<p>But, if you&#8217;re interested, there is a <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/gregladen\/2008\/03\/pz_myers_expelled_gains_sainth.php\">large collection of links<\/a> about the story.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OK, already, I&#8217;ll become the millionth blogger to note the delicious irony of PZ Myers being, well, expelled from a screening of the upcoming movie, &#8220;EXPELLED!&#8221; Ironic not only because of being expelled, but also because, if those that are &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/129\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-129","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-antiscience"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/129","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=129"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/129\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=129"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=129"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=129"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}