{"id":13637,"date":"2013-05-21T03:00:56","date_gmt":"2013-05-21T08:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=13637"},"modified":"2013-05-21T03:00:56","modified_gmt":"2013-05-21T08:00:56","slug":"charge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/13637","title":{"rendered":"Charge!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/technology\/teens-invention-could-charge-your-phone-20-seconds-1C9977955\">Teen&#8217;s invention could charge your phone in 20 seconds<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Waiting hours for a cellphone to charge may become a thing of the past, thanks to an 18-year-old high-school student&#8217;s invention. She won a $50,000 prize Friday at an international science fair for creating an energy storage device that can be fully juiced in 20 to 30 seconds.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Maddening omission of what the capacity of the system actually is, because this is great, if it actually works as advertised. There is the implication above, that it&#8217;s the same capacity as a phone battery, but that&#8217;s contradicted in other stories. Which means we don&#8217;t know if this will scale up or end up on the list of failed promises, like those room-temperature superconductors on mag-lev trains we were promised were imminent, back in the 90&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.geek.com\/science\/student-develops-supercapacitor-that-enables-30-second-battery-charges-1555756\/\">This report<\/a> implies that it&#8217;s not ready for that just yet.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Her experiment used the supercapacitor to power an LED, but both Khare and Intel believe the same tech can be used to similar effect on a smartphone.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Powering an LED is a far cry from powering a phone. The article doesn&#8217;t say how long the LED ran. Several hours? Or just a few minutes?<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/newsroom.intel.com\/community\/intel_newsroom\/blog\/2013\/05\/17\/romanian-teenager-wins-big-for-low-cost-self-driving-car-innovation\">INTEL press release<\/a> is even more confusing.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>She developed a tiny device that fits inside cell phone batteries, allowing them to fully charge within 20-30 seconds.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s being used to fully charge a battery? That doesn&#8217;t make sense. A cell phone battery&#8217;s capacity is around 1500 mAh at around 3.7 V. Charging it in 30 seconds would require ~670 Watts, though it&#8217;s 180 Amps at 3.7V (but under 6 amps at the wall outlet). The obstacle isn&#8217;t the availability of the raw power to the battery, it&#8217;s efficiently delivering the charge to the battery without melting anything, including the battery, so without modifying the battery you still run into the problem of the battery not &#8220;liking&#8221; to be charged quickly \u2014\u00a0they tend to get hot. It makes more sense that this would be used as a substitute for (or an auxiliary to) the battery, and the supercapacitor is what can be charged quickly.<\/p>\n<p>If it can be scaled up.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Teen&#8217;s invention could charge your phone in 20 seconds Waiting hours for a cellphone to charge may become a thing of the past, thanks to an 18-year-old high-school student&#8217;s invention. She won a $50,000 prize Friday at an international science &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/13637\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13637","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tech"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13637","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13637"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13637\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13637"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13637"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13637"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}