{"id":14943,"date":"2014-05-13T02:35:56","date_gmt":"2014-05-13T07:35:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=14943"},"modified":"2014-05-13T02:35:56","modified_gmt":"2014-05-13T07:35:56","slug":"i-hope-this-isnt-a-scam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/14943","title":{"rendered":"I Hope This isn&#039;t a Scam"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fastcoexist.com\/3029876\/this-nigerian-college-student-built-a-wind-and-solar-powered-car-from-scraps\">This Nigerian College Student Built a Wind- And Solar-Powered Car From Scraps<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve run numbers for a solar-powered car before, when someone had proposed just popping solar cells on a car and thinking that would be viable. It won&#8217;t work. It&#8217;s not really close, so even with a head start of charging the battery up, I have to wonder what you&#8217;re going to get.<\/p>\n<p>Gasoline has an energy density of around 120 MJ\/gallon. Let&#8217;s convert this into units used in electrical systems: 1 kW-hour is 3.6 MJ, so a gallon of gas is a little over 30 kWh of energy. Electrical systems are much more efficient than internal combustion, so let&#8217;s assume we only need 10 kWh of electricity to do the work of a gallon of gasoline (which also might require things like regenerative braking). Comparing to a 30 mpg gasoline engine, this is 3 miles\/kWh, which is about what commercial electric cars are getting.<\/p>\n<p>According to maps I found, solar insolation in the US is highest in the southwest, peaking above 5 kWh\/m^2\/day, and I think that assumes your panels track the sun to keep it perpendicular to the panel. The solar panel on the car looks to be about 2 square meters, so we can get around 10 kWh with a full day&#8217;s charge \u2014 we can replace about a gallon of gas. Nigeria&#8217;s insolation is higher, so let&#8217;s multiply this insolation by 2, but the claim is that this happens in 4-5 hours, so maybe that&#8217;s a wash. And the panel doesn&#8217;t track the sun, so this is probably generous.<\/p>\n<p>Can you get around town in something like that? Sure. You can go 30 miles in a day on a charge, plus whatever charging you get as you&#8217;re out and about. But then you&#8217;ll have a depleted battery, and wouldn&#8217;t be able to do this every day since you can&#8217;t charge it at night. Unless you&#8217;re going under 10 mph and it&#8217;s always sunny, this can never be a &#8220;charge-as-you-go&#8221; system without an order-of-magnitude improvement somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also this, which sets off the skeptic alarm in a much stronger fashion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Not only did Oyeyiola install a giant solar panel on top of the Beetle; he also inserted a wind turbine under the hood. As Preston explains, that allows air to flow into the grill while the car is moving, subsequently turning the turbine&#8217;s rotors and charging the battery at the back of the car. Oyeyiola also built a strong suspension system to deal with the weight of the battery itself.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Unless this is just a really poor description of something else, it sounds an awful lot like a perpetual motion machine \u2014 using the wind generated by your motion to charge the battery. Realistically, such a device should drain the battery faster, because it can&#8217;t be 100% efficient.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Nigerian College Student Built a Wind- And Solar-Powered Car From Scraps I&#8217;ve run numbers for a solar-powered car before, when someone had proposed just popping solar cells on a car and thinking that would be viable. It won&#8217;t work. &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/14943\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[39,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14943","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-physics","category-tech"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14943","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14943"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14943\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14943"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14943"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14943"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}