{"id":14945,"date":"2014-05-14T03:00:36","date_gmt":"2014-05-14T08:00:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=14945"},"modified":"2014-05-14T03:00:36","modified_gmt":"2014-05-14T08:00:36","slug":"whatdo-youmean-by-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/14945","title":{"rendered":"What\u2026Do You\u2026Mean by That? I\u2026Have to Know!"},"content":{"rendered":"

Please Don\u2019t Beam Me Up, Scotty<\/a><\/p>\n

Visitor<\/strong>: It doesn\u2019t transport<\/em>. It disassembles your molecules and reassembles them on the other side. It annihilates you, and builds a perfect copy in a new location. It\u2019s not a transporter<\/em>, it\u2019s a replacer<\/em>. What results is a facsimile, a reproduction, a brand-new being with borrowed memories. The original creature\u2014its consciousness\u2014its soul\u2014all gone.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is funny, and mostly right. But there’s one physics error I spotted, and it’s a whopper. As you might guess, it ties in with the details of quantum teleportation. It’s unfortunate, too, because I think much of the story holds together without it.<\/p>\n

Visitor<\/strong>: Think about it. It\u2019s not the actual molecules being \u201ctransported,\u201d just information about them. You could just as easily transmit that information\u2014and build the new being\u2014while leaving the old one perfectly intact. Couldn\u2019t you? And if the old one persisted, wouldn\u2019t it be obvious that the new copy is a different being altogether?<\/p>\n

Spock<\/strong>: His analysis is not incorrect, Captain.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

What Spock should have said was that the answer is “no”; i.e. there’s a superfluous “not” in there (a sign error, of sorts). Destruction of the state of the original is a requirement<\/em> of quantum teleportation, which renders the rest of that section’s argument moot. Perfect copying while retaining the original is cloning and there is something called the no-cloning theorem in quantum mechanics: basically, you can’t make copies of an unknown quantum state (the wikipedia page<\/a> on this gets technical pretty quickly). You can transfer that information from one particle to another, but the information in the original is destroyed.<\/p>\n

The gory details of this bit of theory is tad outside of my wheelhouse, but as I understand it if you could clone, then you could measure the cloned state without disrupting the original. But there are a whole bunch of quantum effects that depend on a state being undetermined, rather than having some underlying reality \u2014 there must be more than one possible state in order to see interference. It’s a reason that classical explanations for entanglement fail, because in classical physics you can have an unknown state (a coin you’ve flipped) and then measure it (look at the coin, see it’s “heads”), and you will know that it was heads even before you looked at it. In QM, you don’t<\/em> know that it was heads until the moment of measurement \u2014 it was in a superposition of heads and tails before that, and that superposition will behave differently than a state that was secretly heads (or tails) the whole time. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Please Don\u2019t Beam Me Up, Scotty Visitor: It doesn\u2019t transport. It disassembles your molecules and reassembles them on the other side. It annihilates you, and builds a perfect copy in a new location. It\u2019s not a transporter, it\u2019s a replacer. … Continue reading →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14945","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-physics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14945","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14945"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14945\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14945"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14945"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14945"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}