{"id":440,"date":"2008-06-14T16:19:12","date_gmt":"2008-06-14T21:19:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=440"},"modified":"2008-06-14T16:19:12","modified_gmt":"2008-06-14T21:19:12","slug":"getting-my-pants-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/440","title":{"rendered":"Getting My Pants On"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. <\/em>  Churchill, inspired by Twain, pre-internet.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/gizmodo.com\/5016343\/genepax-unveils-a-car-that-runs-on-water-and-air\">Genepax Unveils a Car That Runs on Water and Air<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Try again, you sensationalizing hacks.  Versions of this story have spread across the web like a bad rash.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Their new &#8220;Water Energy System (WES),&#8221; generates power by supplying water and air to the fuel and air electrodes using a proprietary technology called the Membrane Electrode Assembly (MEA). The secret behind MEA is a special material that is capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If there&#8217;s a chemical reaction taking place, then it&#8217;s <em>not running on water and air<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>As said in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fuelcelltoday.com\/online\/news\/articles\/2008-06\/Genepax-unveils-water-energy-fuel-cell\">press release<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The main feature of the new system is that it uses a membrane electrode assembly (MEA), which contains a material that breaks down the water to hydrogen and oxygen.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Got that?  It <em>contains a material that breaks down the water to hydrogen and oxygen<\/em>.  There&#8217;s a chemical reaction going on, for Odin&#8217;s sake!  There are materials that like Oxygen even more than Hydrogen does.  Introduce them, let them get acquainted, and they&#8217;ll get busy producing Hydrogen.  But \u2014 and this is very important \u2014 the other material will eventually run out, and you&#8217;ll have to &#8220;refuel.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>To give an example, you can <a href=\"http:\/\/news.uns.purdue.edu\/x\/2007a\/070515WoodallHydrogen.html\">generate Hydrogen<\/a> with water, Aluminum and Gadolinium (the latter is a catalyst which keeps the Al from forming an oxide layer, which would shut the reaction down, and the reaction is not exactly a &#8220;new process&#8221;). I don&#8217;t know if this is what&#8217;s going on <em>here<\/em>, but something sure is, because in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.<\/p>\n<p>Update:  good takedown over at <a href=\"http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/goodmath\/2008\/06\/perpetual_motion_via_fuel_cell.php\">Good Math, Bad Math<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. Churchill, inspired by Twain, pre-internet. Genepax Unveils a Car That Runs on Water and Air Try again, you sensationalizing hacks. Versions of &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/440\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24,35,39,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-440","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-journalism","category-other-science","category-physics","category-tech"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/440","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=440"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/440\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=440"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=440"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=440"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}