{"id":736,"date":"2008-09-05T04:08:09","date_gmt":"2008-09-05T09:08:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/?p=736"},"modified":"2008-09-05T04:08:09","modified_gmt":"2008-09-05T09:08:09","slug":"drinking-games-physics-vs-aesthetics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/736","title":{"rendered":"Drinking Games:  Physics vs. Aesthetics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Swissmiss asks, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.swiss-miss.com\/weblog\/2008\/09\/hey-whats-that.html\">hey, what&#8217;s that in your drink?<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Not recommended for those suffering from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nlm.nih.gov\/medlineplus\/ency\/article\/001538.htm\">pica<\/a> or ice-chewers who are absent-minded.<\/p>\n<p>However, this is almost all marketing and little (ahem) solid physics.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Nordic Rock is mined from ancient Swedish pollution-free base rock. It is the purest way of cooling your drink &#8211; literally &#8216;on the rocks&#8217;. Stone does not melt, which means no unclean water in your glass. They are also reusable making them very eco-friendly. To use, simply place the stone ice cubes in the freezer for approximately one hour before use. For a normal glass, two or three Nordic Rocks will be fine. They give off their cold gradually and equally.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Not diluting the drink is a valid claim (technically chemistry, though).   Cleanly or not, though  \u2014 don&#8217;t you use clean water in ice cubes?   Ewww.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Eco-friendly?&#8221;  How much water does it take to clean these, as compared to the amount of water in an ice cube?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They give off their cold gradually and equally.&#8221;  Reasonable claim, once you get past &#8220;cold&#8221; being a substance.  But the advantage of water is that, because of the latent heat of fusion (334 J\/g), your drink will stay at 0 \u00baC until the ice melts, while the drink with the stone cubes will warm up continually.  And what&#8217;s the heat capacity?  I&#8217;m not sure exactly what these are (don&#8217;t recall &#8220;base rock&#8221; being a designation), but I&#8217;ll assume they are similar to granite, whose heat capacity is about 2 J\/cm<sup>3<\/sup> K (helped by its higher density), similar to ice, while water is 4.18 J\/cm<sup>3<\/sup> K, and again there&#8217;s that huge amount of energy from the latent heat.  Let&#8217;s say you have 10 cm<sup>3<\/sup> of these stones at 0 \u00baC and an identical amount of ice.  The stones will absorb just 400 or so J of energy in warming to 20\u00baC, while the ice will absorb 3000 J just in melting, and then 750 more in warming up.  Thermodynamically, ice wins.<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t like the dilution of ice cubes, you&#8217;re better off using water frozen inside of another container, as in <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/472\">the trick<\/a> I offered a little while back.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Swissmiss asks, hey, what&#8217;s that in your drink? Not recommended for those suffering from pica or ice-chewers who are absent-minded. However, this is almost all marketing and little (ahem) solid physics. Nordic Rock is mined from ancient Swedish pollution-free base &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/archives\/736\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,39],"tags":[74,91,378,488],"class_list":["post-736","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-art","category-physics","tag-advertising","tag-art","tag-physics","tag-thermodynamics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/736","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=736"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/736\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=736"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=736"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blogs.scienceforums.net\/swansont\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=736"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}